tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1486744685042672932.post5875374664291512145..comments2022-03-27T13:29:42.521+01:00Comments on Hearts and mines: Captain's log supplementalIan Baxterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14211672090985669449noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1486744685042672932.post-40894636292467126322012-10-06T17:34:08.148+01:002012-10-06T17:34:08.148+01:00As a councillor in the last administration I would...As a councillor in the last administration I would say the Lib Dems voted with Labour 90% of the time. As you say Ian, Katie defected, and Ken voted as he was told to by the (former) Provost. Yes, Les was more independent, but by the end of the five years he was, effectively, just another Labour vote. To say the SNP only put forward proposals to oppose Labour is disingenuous in the extreme - indeed, there was agreement on many issues. Craig Stathamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1486744685042672932.post-3467925679097931192012-08-14T17:38:42.125+01:002012-08-14T17:38:42.125+01:00Well at today's council meeting I supported bo...Well at today's council meeting I supported both sides' arguments about equally - by coincidence I should stress. I tended to support the SNP if Labour were clearly point scoring with no real argument, but on a couple of points Labour I felt were in the right. The first one (an amendment to Standing Orders) was therefore tied 9-9 and led to an adjournment and a 25 minute delay in the start of real business. Shades of things to come?Ian Baxterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14211672090985669449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1486744685042672932.post-73733854356766441252012-08-14T15:08:37.928+01:002012-08-14T15:08:37.928+01:00We probably voted more often with them than not, t...We probably voted more often with them than not, two out of three of our original councillors were very close to Labour (one defected), but Les was very much an independent voice, the problem was often what the Nats were often proposing was not thought through it was merely not what Labour was saying. Euan Davidsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1486744685042672932.post-68423483092488277222012-08-14T09:11:14.991+01:002012-08-14T09:11:14.991+01:00Hi Euan,
Perhaps my statement wasn't clear, b...Hi Euan,<br /><br />Perhaps my statement wasn't clear, but it was Provost Wallace who said at the council meeting that the Lib Dems had consistently voted with Labour. I have heard similar from a number of sources, although admittedly all Nats. It's a difficult one to verify as council minutes only show up the totals unless a 'roll call' vote is taken, which is rare.<br /><br />IanIan Baxterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14211672090985669449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1486744685042672932.post-85959731043903757462012-08-13T21:58:34.775+01:002012-08-13T21:58:34.775+01:00Most of what you say here is quite correct Ian, bu...Most of what you say here is quite correct Ian, but I take issue with the idea that the Lib Dems consistently voted with the Labour party, which you know is not true. We regularly presented alternative budgets, we voted both with them and against them on numerous occasions. I hardly think its right to make a comparison we never had a formal agreement with the Labour party. Euan Davidsonnoreply@blogger.com